In Jan 2013 a new church began in London - with singing, a sermon and a great sense of community - but its for godless people. Atheist stand up comedian Sanderson Jones who co-founded “the Sunday Assembly” talks about its first meeting and why it exists.

Scottish church minister David Robertson asks questions about whether an “atheist church” makes sense and what Christians could learn from it.

Justin is also joined by two of those who attended the first service, Rory Fenton and Simon Jenkins.